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robz
New Member
Australia
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 Posted - Sep 19 2009 : 16:10:53
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Not wanting to start a fidht, but I'm curios.What is it about the 25/06?
I own a 270win and reading the reloading manuals, you don't seem to get a whole lot of benefits from the 25/06 over the 270win.
The pioty things aren't getting out there a whole lot faster.I'm not knocking the 25/06, as I said,I'm curious and would live to hear from fans of the 25/06.
I suppose the same could be said for the 280 Remington vs the 30/06.Is there really much of a gain or is it because we like to and can have something just a little bit different.
Please understand that this is not an attack on a cartridge.I've just culled quite a few of my rifles and settled on the 270 and the 223 as my 'walkabout' rifles for in the field, but having played with my friends 30/06,and the fact that he gets around 3200 f/s with 125 gn projectiles, I think that the 30/06 would just about do the job very nicely if I didn't already have a 270.
Your opinions are eagerly awaited
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Dom
Moderator
Germany
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Posted - Sep 19 2009 : 16:20:36
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| They're both just fine, just different strokes for different folks. I have no problem with either and own both of those calibers. That said, I haven't used either in quite some time for hunting. But if I wanted to wouldn't have any reservations with either, depending on size of game I was going after, Waidmannsheil, Dom. |
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ethmoid1999
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USA
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Posted - Sep 19 2009 : 16:28:06
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robz,
I figure you are right. I have both cartridges. I like them both. I like nearly every cartridge I have an accurate rifle for. I really like the 25's as a group. I have 257 Roberts, 25-06 and 257 Wby. I want a 250 Savage one day for my little daughter for her first centerfire rifle. I think the 270 with a 130 can be closely approached with a 115-120 in a 25-06. The 25-06 can't compete with a 270 with 140 or 150 brain bullets, though. Same for 270 and 30-06. The heavier bullets give the nod to the 30-06. I have a bunch of rifles and will never have enough. :)
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Kansas Ed
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - Sep 19 2009 : 16:35:53
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I guess I've always seen it visually as a graph. Dependant upon what you are using it for. Everytime I contemplate a new cartridge, I kinda place it within this visual. Understand, this visual is my opinion that I created, so say if I'm contemplating the .257R it would shrink the high end of that block a little bit from the 25-06, or a .308 Win would move the 30-06 block down a tad in position.
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Are we there yet??? |
Edited by - Kansas Ed on Sep 19 2009 16:38:11 |
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bob270
Advanced Member
Canada
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Posted - Sep 19 2009 : 17:00:52
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Ed, I really like the graph idea,nice.
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BISCUT
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Posted - Sep 19 2009 : 17:57:00
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+2 to Ed. Great way to show it!
I really feel the 25's are great for deer/antelope. But the 270 is certainly more gun for the same plus a few more species added to the realm of possibilities. |
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Ds28
Moderator
USA
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Posted - Sep 19 2009 : 20:23:36
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If you have a 270 then there is really no good reason other than an excuse to have another rifle to buy a 25-06
They are both good calibers for use on deer sized (or kangaroo sized in your case) game
have had both and shot game with both and like both |
How many "brain farts" before you realize you are just plain old DUMB !
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whiteynut
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Posted - Sep 19 2009 : 21:01:35
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| I've never used a 25-06 but have hunted with a 270. I consider both capable moose rounds and have seen both used successfully. I would limit my shots on elk with the 25-06 more than the 270. Around here, elk are considered a tougher animal than moose. |
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IraqVet2003
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - Sep 19 2009 : 21:42:24
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| I have both and like both, I only have 1 25-06 and 2 270's. The 25-06 is a custom and very picky about what it likes to shoot. The 270's are a Tikka T3 Lite that shoots very well and the other is a T/C Venture that I am still working with to get it to shoot good groups. Ofcourse the groups I am getting arent bad just not what I would like out of the T/C. Anyways I wouldnt hesitate to use either on game all the way up to moose, however shot decipline is required with the 25-06 more so than the 270. MHO Vet |
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IraqVet2003
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - Sep 19 2009 : 23:34:59
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| I give this debate some thought from time to time, and for what ever reason I always come back to its not what you hit them with its where you hit them. This goes for 2 or four legged vermin. As most of us know a 22lr will kill a deer if you hit it in the right place. Will a 30-06 or even bigger do it with more margin for error? Yes. But does that mean that the intended target is any more dead? No. I think it all boils down to what you like, can afford, and just plain cause you can and that it. Nothing more nothing less. But I also see to many times folks getting the biggest badest thing out there and think that bigger will make up for poor shot placement, and maybe it will a little but as a hunter that isnt giving very much respect to your intended query though as to making quick humane kills. JMHO Vet |
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ethmoid1999
Advanced Member
USA
2305 Posts |
Posted - Sep 19 2009 : 23:40:34
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| I agree. The Texas Hill Country has numerous people who have never owned anything but a 222 Remington. Some of them have been getting their deer and not losing them for near fifty years. Shot placement is everything. |
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dlutter
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - Sep 19 2009 : 23:49:47
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I think it depends on what you want to shoot and where you hunt. If someone wanted to have one rifle and mostly shoot the smaller southern/eastern whitetails plus some chucks and predators I would give the nod to the .25-06. If you hunted farther west and shot big mulies , an elk when you could, and only shot predators once in a blue moon I would go with the .270. I have a .25-06 in a Rem 700 Sendero and plan on using it for long range P-dogs, predators, and the occasional deer/antelope. I also have a .30-06 and .338-06 AI that I use for larger game.
Someday I hope to have a rifle in every caliber .22 through .40 based on the .30-06 cartridge. You won't catch me arguing this cartridge can do everything and more than that cartridge. I say you should have them all! |
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robz
New Member
Australia
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Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 02:20:02
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Ds28,
Kangaroos are not hard to kill.The minimum legal calider for Kangaroo is the 223 Rem.A chest shot( professional shooters head shoot to avoid meat damage)will put them down every time.
They are mostly shot under lights and permits are required from the relevant authorities before they can be shot.
I guess that the 25/06 would recoil less than the 270 and for some that would be an issue.
Thanks for all the feedback.
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ethmoid1999
Advanced Member
USA
2305 Posts |
Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 07:55:57
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robz,
If you want to eat them or sell them, the larger, slower bullet may actually be better. If you want to shoot them way out yonder and don't care about the holes and meat damage, I'd look hard at the 25-06. The recoil is a bit less. You can kick an 85-87 grain bullet up around 3500 and a 75 grain even faster. In the wind, you may prefer the 100-120s a bit slower. They are actually better for real long shots too.
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fishstan2
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 09:20:56
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Rob, like it has been said here already, I own both, in several rifles . Great for long range deer shooting to pigs. But, you said it yourself. It's very hard to beat a 30-06 from the little pills to the big pills . Stan |
WILLIAMS, STANLEY W.
SGM U.S. ARMY
FORT HOOD TEXAS
"SHOOTEM FROM LONG RANGE" |
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hifi
New Member
USA
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Posted - Nov 20 2009 : 12:37:51
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| I like the 25-06 a lot, I chose it over the 270 because of recoil, and I have always wanted a 25-06..but I have been eyeing a 270 remington cdl at the gun shop as of late. |
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