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slabsides45
Average Member
USA
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 Posted - Nov 12 2009 : 17:16:56
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I'm not trying to "pick the hair," but would like to have everyone's opinion on a powder/primer/round recipe that will be devastating to deer (i.e., can shoulder shoot one), that's gonna mushroom but remain intact and get good penetration. I'd also like for it to be as accurate as possible. Shooting it out of a Tikka M695 Whitetail Hunter, if that matters, and will be sighting at 200 yards.
I'm new to reloading rifles, but have been at it a while on the .45 ACP. Maybe I'm asking too much to ask for accuracy PLUS knock-down, but if the factory can make 'em, why can't I?
Thanks for any input you might have! |
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Paul B
Advanced Member
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Posted - Nov 12 2009 : 18:15:02
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You can beat factory in the 30-06 without too much trouble. A good powder would be one of the 4350s, either IMR or H. Just work up to a safe max load witht he 180 gr. Sierra pro-hunter and sight in 3" high at 100 yards. You can hold center of mass, IE center of the chest a out past 200 yards and still make a killing shot at 300 yards hold even with the top of the back. The load won't mangle too much eating meat at close ranges but will still kill well way out yonder. I've been loading my 30-06 that way since the mid 1970s. Like Murphy's Law says, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
I used to load up a hot 150 gr. load but ssometimes a not so well placed shot made a serious mess when a shoulder was hit. When you have to throw away a full quartyer of a deer, well it does not sir well with me so I went to the heavier bullet and I have not looked back. My loads used IMR-4831 but I'm thinking one of the 4350s would be a bit better. Just depends on what your rifle likes. I haven't tried W-760 but it might be an option as well.
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archerross
Senior Member
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Posted - Nov 12 2009 : 19:23:02
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| +1 to Sierra bullets. The 180gr will hold together better thru the shoulder than the 165gr, but my '06 loves the 165gr Sierra Gameking. I think the Prohunter, that has the flat base, has a bit more structural integrity than the boattail design of the Gameking. Either IMR or H4350 will work well. |
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superyota
New Member
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Posted - Nov 12 2009 : 20:20:28
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| +3 to sierra at 180 gr personaly i shot the 175 gr at steel at 200yds and it hits hard realy hard, loading 53.3 gr of accurate 4350 and using remy cci br primers, guess you cold try with reg primers and 180 gr game kings. are very accurate .3 in at 200 yds. just my .02 cents. |
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45colt
Advanced Member
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Posted - Nov 12 2009 : 21:03:48
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I like the 165 grain Hornadys. The interlocks are tough bullets and don't cost a fortune.
If you like Sierra bullets, try the 165 HPBT Gameking. I have a box here, but have not had the chance to try them yet. I hear that bullet is a much tougher bullet than the other Sierra bullets. I've read that they are even tough enough for elk. A e-mail or call to Sierra should confirm their tough jackets. |
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Dom
Moderator
Germany
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Posted - Nov 13 2009 : 01:46:54
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| H4350 and 180gr A Frames have proven themselves on Boar and Deer without blowing gaping holes thru 'em. If that's what you're looking for they will perform, Waidmannsheil, Dom. |
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fishstan2
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - Nov 13 2009 : 08:19:45
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Have to say +5 to all that has been said, these days it is hard to get a bad bullet for shooting. I would also have to mention Barnes Bullets, TSX, TTSX, MRX also Nosler bullets. Hope this helps. Stan |
WILLIAMS, STANLEY W.
SGM U.S. ARMY
FORT HOOD TEXAS
"SHOOTEM FROM LONG RANGE" |
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slabsides45
Average Member
USA
107 Posts |
Posted - Nov 13 2009 : 12:20:30
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| fishstan2, have you shot that TSX on deer? Just wondering, as that's the bullet that I bought (Federal) for my .25-06, and it seems to like it, based on my groups. Wondering how it'd do in the '06. |
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fishstan2
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 02:38:41
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Hello Slabsides45, have shot Pig, Deer, Mule Deer, Elk have loaded for guys that have shot all those animals and more. The Barnes Bullets work . You will be pleased, if you are having great accuarcy then the rest is up to you. They can be a little on the expensive side sometimes, but worth the money you will spend. But like everybody else said here the other bullets mentioned are very good to and they work also. I hope this helps. Stan |
WILLIAMS, STANLEY W.
SGM U.S. ARMY
FORT HOOD TEXAS
"SHOOTEM FROM LONG RANGE" |
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slabsides45
Average Member
USA
107 Posts |
Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 20:05:08
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| Thanks for the help! |
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fishstan2
Advanced Member
USA
2122 Posts |
Posted - Nov 15 2009 : 07:04:13
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| SS45, good luck to you and I hope you have a great hunting season. Stan |
WILLIAMS, STANLEY W.
SGM U.S. ARMY
FORT HOOD TEXAS
"SHOOTEM FROM LONG RANGE" |
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harris
Senior Member
South Africa
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Posted - Nov 15 2009 : 08:34:51
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| 57gr of IMR 4350 pushing a 180gr Nosler accubond @ 2750 is my favorite, used with a 200yard zero!! |
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ten2six
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - Nov 15 2009 : 16:46:27
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slabsides45,
Let me start off by saying Nosler and Barnes are my favorite, premium, hunting bullets. That said, my strong belief is that you don't need a premium bullet for whitetail, especially with a .30-06. If you're going on a trophy hunt, maybe. If you're likely going to be shooting out to the limit of your ability, maybe. If you've got money to burn, they're great. But for me, money better spent would be to get a less expensive hunting bullet, and work up your rifle in .1 gr powder increments and find which load your rifle prefers. Any .30-06 180gr hunting bullet is going to tenderize a whitetail, even with a quartering shot. Speer, Hornady, Sierra, etc...all make great hunting bullets.
A less expensive bullet also allows you to shoot more...never a bad thing in my opinion...;)
Stay safe...shoot straight. |
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woods
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - Nov 15 2009 : 20:13:25
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There are a lot of good loads for 30-06's and mostly it will depend upon what your rifle likes and your brass prep. I reload or have reloaded for 8 different 30-06's and have yet to see one that would not shoot the following load well (start lower and work up and I use 60 gr RL22 mostly)
Some don't like the extra recoil shooting the 200 gr boolit but you will have confidence that any whitetail you hit with it is going down. They are not that expensive either. |
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slabsides45
Average Member
USA
107 Posts |
Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 15:26:47
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Thanks woods! Recoil isn't much of an issue for this particular Tikka, as it's been "tweaked." It has a recoil reduction can installed in the stock in front of a Limbsaver (grind-to-fit) pad and a Gentry Quiet Brake, so the felt recoil on this gun is actually much less than the recoil on my .25-06 Savage 111.
So, far I have several choices y'all have mentioned, so now I just have to lay hands on some primers...
SPEAKING OF WHICH... I had a guy tell me he has some magnum primers I can buy off him, is it worth doing or should I hold off and wait for regular primers, so I'll have consistency? |
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curly
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 16:36:30
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For deer, 165 grain Nosler Accubond atop 57.0 grains of IMR4350 powder lit up by a CCI-200 primer in an R-P case...Work up to this load from two grains below...
If, for some reason, the Accubond doesn't turn in good groups (which is highly unlikely), try the Hornady SST bullet with the same load...
Either bullet is excellent deer medicine...
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Deer Hunting round for .30-06 that's accurate
