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curly
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Canada
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Posted - Dec 22 2009 :  20:38:30  Show Profile Send curly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not too often that yours truly ventures into the varmint forums here at the "nest," but thought I would enjoy hearing from you 308 users
out there in cyberspace who take your deer rifle on the occasional varmint safari....

I just picked up some Barnes TSX bullets of 130 grains in weight and some of those highly frangible 125 grain Nosler Ballistic "bomb" tips....

Actually, I have this idea in my head about using the 130 grain TSX as a combo hunt bullet someday...(probably a bad idea)...say coyotes and deer or coyotes and pronghorn antelope if I get back to Wyoming in the future...

As for powders, I'm not a fan of a great amount of compression in my loads, so I'm leaning towards IMR4895 or RL12 or maybe even H322 to approach the 3,000 fps mark with the 130's and the 125's, without having my case runneth over....

What do you guys use as a varmint load in your favourite .308 Winny...?

Curly

lost-leader
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USA
1506 Posts

Posted - Dec 22 2009 :  22:31:42  Show Profile Send lost-leader a Private Message  Reply with Quote
curly- I have never taken my .308 any lighter than 150gr. for deer. Now if your talken the .270 Win. thats a different story. I've shot both the 90gr. HP and the 100gr. soft point. The 100gr. soft point could be used for varmits or deer, and with the right load it is almost as fast as the 90gr. HP. You definately have to resite in if the gun is sighted in with 130gr. or 150gr. bullets. Your right on the money with that IMR.4895 powder and 125gr. or 130gr. bullets. I checked the ballistics on the 110gr. bullet and you don't gain that much more velosity with the 110's.(I have heard Not read in a book) that bullets that light don't stabilize very well. Good luck on your venture. Let us know, here at the nest what kind of luck you have with that .308 and light bullet's. lost.
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purplehorn1977
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USA
97 Posts

Posted - Jan 15 2010 :  11:30:46  Show Profile Send purplehorn1977 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
im using sabot with 55 gr nosler BT in .224 bullets and benchmark cant remember the charge off the top of my head. but they are really fast and will hold a 2 to 3 inch group at 150 yards. that was before i bought my 22-250. so now i dont use them anymore. i still have a few loaded but have a bunch of the sabots left. got them from EA Brown.
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determined451
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Posted - Jan 16 2010 :  08:15:05  Show Profile  Click to see determined451's MSN Messenger address  Send determined451 a Yahoo! Message Send determined451 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I did some work with the 125 Speer TNT...really accurate...used H-322..I think Sierra's accuracy load was made with H-414...I seem to be stuck on just the 150 Accubonds for hunting, and the 168, or 175 SMK's for target...got um...mihgt as well shoot them..D-451

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45colt
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Posted - Jan 27 2010 :  14:42:19  Show Profile Send 45colt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know I guy that shoots 130TSX for whitetail deer and has had NO issues at all. E-mail Barnes, and I bet they tell you they are DESIGNED for deer when shot out of 308win or 30-06 rifles.

For a pure varmit duster, I like the Speer 130 grain HP. It makes them crows and such turn insdie out.

"I'd rather die for something, then live for nothing."

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mhiltz
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USA
645 Posts

Posted - Jan 30 2010 :  13:12:57  Show Profile Send mhiltz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I use two differnt guns for varminting, X-bolt .308 and an oly ar15. The 308 I load 150gr.sst Hornady and IMR4064 @ 46.0gr. I love that load for p dogs, its a little on the much side but that makes it fun. The ar15, I use 55gr V-Max at 3100 fps. with varget, and i have to say I'm not so impressed with the V-Max. While accuracy is not the problem,(mostly less than 1MOA @ 100yds.) I find myself having to shoot twice to kill on dogs within 200yds. The first shot almost always wounds. I have good luck out between 400 and 500 yds.

Anyways good luck on your 130gr TSX, I've been wanting to try some my self.

MHiltz

"It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it" Captain Call Texas Ranger

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Evad
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USA
1322 Posts

Posted - Jan 30 2010 :  18:28:17  Show Profile Send Evad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Sierra 110 grain Hollow point .308 bullet makes a mess of any kind of varmint.
Dave

I never met a gun I didn't like.
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Cheesemaker
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Australia
5 Posts

Posted - Feb 26 2010 :  23:55:30  Show Profile Send Cheesemaker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I use a 130g HP Speer (a real nasty piece of work) which is great medicine for cats and dogs and anything smaller. From my Rem 700 Police I spit them out at about 3060fps
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Bobo7mmmag
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Posted - Feb 28 2010 :  08:25:07  Show Profile Send Bobo7mmmag a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Curly

Shot Prairie Dogs, Mule Deer and Antelope with 30 cal 125 grain Sierra's way back before Ballisic Tips and TSX's existed out of 30-06 and .300 Win Mag's. Watched one from a .300 Mag go through both shoulders of a Mulely Buck at 50 yards. Was amazed that it would penetrate that well at high Velocity.

TSX's make any gun much bigger than it is.

LOL

Bobo 7mm Mag
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cfvickers
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Posted - Feb 28 2010 :  08:48:56  Show Profile Send cfvickers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can't speak for the 130 grain TSX but in the same neighborhood, I loaded 20 110 grain TSX (.270 cal) in a 6.8 SPC for a friends kids to shoot deer with and of the 20 rounds, he has 5 remaining. 6 were fired at the range, and nine deer fell to that rifle this past year, and when I say fell, I mean right there, DRT. Not little doe's either Nice bucks some over 200 LBS, by kids from 7 years old to 13. So the small tsx bullets can work quite well on deer.

Edited by - cfvickers on Feb 28 2010 08:50:15
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curly
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Canada
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Posted - Feb 28 2010 :  11:24:14  Show Profile Send curly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My son and I finally got out to the range yesterday....The 125 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip atop 47.5 grains of RL-15 managed 2,940 at the muzzle and turned in a tight little 3 shot cluster of .5 of an inch..

The 130 grain Barnes TSX with 47.0 grains of RL-15 exited at 2,904 and grouped right at the 1 inch mark...

The new Hornady GMX 150 grain bullet with 45.0 grains of RL-15 went out at a modest 2,754 fps, but did well on the targets, printing 3/4 of an inch groups....These bullets are long, with plenty of compression in the .308 Win case....If Hornady would gamble on a 140 grain GMX bullet in .308 diameter, I think it would pay off...!!
This weight of bullet makes a great deal of sense to me in the .308 Winchester cartridge...deer, pronghorn antelope, and the occsional coyote...

At one time, Barnes turned out a 140 grain X bullet, but I dont see that pill on the shelf any more....

Curly

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Big Dave
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USA
7 Posts

Posted - Jun 06 2010 :  14:06:32  Show Profile Send Big Dave a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like the Sierra 110 gr. Hp with 49 grs. of IMR 4064 for chucks, they blow up like a bomb.
Not all rifles will shoot these little bullets and a little tinkering is often necessary to find best accuracy. Often a gr. up or down will make a significant difference in group size.
Just have to find what works in your rifle. Some just won't shoot them at all and the 125 gr.
works well.

Ignorance killed the cat, Curiosity was framed. Friday Jones
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3me
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USA
9 Posts

Posted - Nov 11 2010 :  16:04:21  Show Profile  Visit 3me's Homepage Send 3me a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have liquefied many prairie dogs with a 168 grain Sierra BTHP moly bullet. Why not? Sure, I had a .17 Rem, .223 and a .220 Swift that most sane and rational people would say makes a better varmint rifle, but I am not always sane nor rational. When the wind is blowing, and it usually is, I have more confidence that I can make a 500+ yard shot with the .308.

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot shoot.The courage to shoot the things I can and the wisdom to dope the wind and make the shot.
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Onondaga
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USA
2214 Posts

Posted - Nov 12 2010 :  01:07:15  Show Profile Send Onondaga a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Decades ago I had a cheap looking Mossberg 800 with brutal stamped checkering including an ugly deer head stamped in the checkering, it was a .308 Win. I thought it shot well with 180 gr. bullets for deer and grouped 1.2 inches at 100 yds. I started to varmint hunt with a new friend and tried Sierra 110 gr HP bullets. I just looked in my Sierra book and tried the load that said 3000 fps with the powder I had. Boy, did I luck out. 44.2 grains IMR 3031 grouped .4 in. at 100 yds. for me the first try with that ugly rifle and a Redfield 4-12 scope with X fine cross-hairs. I never even tried to work for more accuracy, that was good enough for me, many hundreds of woodchucks, a few foxes, and one skunk all at over 300 yds. I occasionally took shorter shots with the rifle too but they were boring. The nicest old dairy farmer in Cherry Creek, NY used to give me $.50 a tail for woodchuck tails from his fields with a big smile and say "Shoot em all, I want no more broken cow legs!"

Fine rifles are never really owned.
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BIG LION
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Namibia
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Posted - Oct 12 2011 :  03:57:28  Show Profile Send BIG LION a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have a bull barrel in my hunting 308, which I had use for Bisley shooting. It measures 7.63 now and I use it for shooting game. I use Sierra 125 gr at 3200 f/s on gemsbok and kudu`s and it still shoots .45" at 200 meters. I use it also on springbucks and they blow holes throw their heads. 308 is one of the best calibers and you will be glad if you have one and you can shoot many shots throw it and it will still shoot well.
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william4440
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USA
5 Posts

Posted - Apr 03 2012 :  19:42:09  Show Profile  Visit william4440's Homepage Send william4440 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In the 308win no powder can do better than IMR3031 for all round use. the 308 is
likely the best hunting round avalable for the hunting of medium game imho.
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