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twud
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USA
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Posted - Nov 22 2010 :  19:46:44  Show Profile Send twud a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Has anyone ever played with a 6.5 Remington Magnum. I've got an itch for one of the 6.5s.

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eric2381
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Canada
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Posted - Nov 22 2010 :  20:02:56  Show Profile Send eric2381 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think Woods has one.

The 6.5s are great!

I've never saw a hearse with a luggage rack....
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cfvickers
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Posted - Nov 22 2010 :  20:44:54  Show Profile Send cfvickers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There is no bad 6.5. The 6.5 RM is a great cartridge and if it were in a long action it would likely address some of the issues that plague the 6.5-284 which is a wonderful cartridge but high pressure loads that would be safe in the 6.5 rem mag, will drastically reduce case life in a 6.5-284, all be it safe to push these pressures in good brass. sometimes to just 2-3 shots. Just an observation so some may disagree with me. I have played with a 6.5 rem mag a little and the 6.5-284, well, I have two of them.
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eric2381
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Canada
2009 Posts

Posted - Nov 22 2010 :  22:57:23  Show Profile Send eric2381 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have a 6.5-284, two 6.5x55s, and I have a rifle getting rechambered to 6.5 Gibbs at the moment. I am pumped to see what the 6.5 Gibbs can do. Alot of people really love the 6.5-06. I wanted to try it, but in an improved version.

A 6.5-06 or 6.5-06 AI would be pretty much an equal to the 6.5 rem mag, and brass would be alot easier to find/make.

I've never saw a hearse with a luggage rack....
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woods
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USA
1949 Posts

Posted - Nov 22 2010 :  23:39:07  Show Profile Send woods a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes I have one and a friend liked mine so he had me set one up for him.

Mine is a rebarrel of a Browning BBR 300 win mag. It has a Douglas XX barrel #4 contour 1 in 8 twist finished at 26", McMillan stock and a Zeiss 4.5x14x44 Conquest RapidZ 800 scope

some pics






My gun likes the 130 gr Scirrocco at 3100 fps



You are stuck with Remington brass but it has been good. Dies are readily available. Easy to load for and will bump up underneath the 264 win mag without all the problems (and I have had 2 of the 264 win mags)


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DocHolladay
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USA
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Posted - Nov 23 2010 :  01:38:36  Show Profile Send DocHolladay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
McWhorter Custom rifles has a 6.5 Weatherby that has caught my eye. Now all I need to do is save up to buy it. I have handled a couple of the McWhorter rifles and they are VERY NICE rifles.

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archerross
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Posted - Nov 23 2010 :  01:56:47  Show Profile Send archerross a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nice gun porn, Woods! I too have the Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x44, and it is sitting atop my 6.5-284. Great combo! Say, what is the modification on top your scope?

Mmmm, Sha-nay-nay, nice touch!

I played with the 130 Scirrocco's as well and many of my groups looked like yours...2-3 right together and one "out". I think I was getting about 3100 fps with H1000, but the ES was all over the place. I've settled on the 140 gr Accubond at 2950 fps shooting consistent 0.4's @ 100.

As for the original post, while I've not had the opportunity to load for the 6.5 RM, I will vouch for the quality and effectiveness of the 6.5's.


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woods
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USA
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Posted - Nov 23 2010 :  20:02:56  Show Profile Send woods a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by archerross
Say, what is the modification on top your scope?




http://www.riflescopelevel.com/micro-level_features.html



When someone shares something of value with you and you benefit from it, you have a moral obligation to share it with others.

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OKIE2
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USA
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Posted - Apr 19 2011 :  13:41:56  Show Profile Send OKIE2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have had 2 6.5 rem mags love em.



Edited by - OKIE2 on Apr 19 2011 13:48:00
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WILLIAMDOERSAM
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USA
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Posted - Apr 19 2011 :  16:12:09  Show Profile Send WILLIAMDOERSAM a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The 6,5 Rem Mag and it's sister cartridge the 350 Rem Mag both died before their time. Why you might ask.

Because Remington put both of them in the model 660. Beautiful gun but a marketing Faux Pas.

Those puppies sure barked in that rifle, and shooters quickly filed their vote and quit buying both the cartridges and that model of rifle. The 660 was to light for those carts and the short barrel brought the sound level and light rifle and quick recoil to the shooters attention.

I loved that action and the dog leg bolt. I still wish Remington would bring back that model again.

Best wishes, Bill
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OKIE2
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USA
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Posted - Mar 15 2012 :  16:56:33  Show Profile Send OKIE2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How about we get all the people that needs brass to sign a draft and send it to Remington to let them know we need brass and they should suport all of us that bought thier rifles in 6.5 & 350 mag.
there is guys all over the net looking for this brass.
If they don't I will not buy another Remington product.
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Shastaboat
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USA
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Posted - Mar 15 2012 :  17:41:49  Show Profile Send Shastaboat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't mean to criticize you guys who like the 6.5 Rem Mag but will throw in my two cents if it's OK. I had a friend who owned a 6.5 Win. Mag 35 years ago. I haven't seen the friiend for 35 years. We did a lot of bench shooting with his rifle along side my 270 Win. I don't think the 130 gr bullets were out at the time. If I remember he could get 120 and 140 gr. bullets to load. Anyway the short story was I was able to equal the velocity of his 120 gr loads with 130 gr in .270 Win. His cases were a bunch more expensive than .270 Win brass. The .264 Win Mag case capacity is listed as 81.51 grs of water. The .270 Win. case capacity is 67.39 gr. of water. P.O. Ackley said that the .270 Win case was slightly overbore for the powders available then which commonly IMR 4831 and IMR 4350 were used. Also barrel life was reported to be alot shorter for the 6.5 Win Mag. I concluded that the 6.5 Win Mag was definately over-bore capacity. With some of the newer developed powders I'm not sure if that is still the case...pun...

I don't have capacity figures for the 6.5 Ackley but the .270 Ackley is listed as 67.98 gr. The 6.5 Rem Mag capacity is listed in another reference at 64.5 gr of powder and stated the capacity was 2.5 to 3 gr. more than a 30-06 or .270. Go figure that one...Anyway I'd say they have about the same capacity +-3 gr. Ackley had good things to say about the 6.5-06 but not as much positive for the 6.5-06AI which he definately felt it was overbore and resulted in diminishing returns with the powders available then. My conclusion is that if I wanted to build an optimum 6.5 cal rifle I would stick with the 6.5-06 or the 6.5-06AI and never run out of much cheaper brass. Have fun and good luck.

Edited by - Shastaboat on Mar 16 2012 11:51:45
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woods
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USA
1949 Posts

Posted - Mar 16 2012 :  10:07:19  Show Profile Send woods a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey Shasta, I agree

Ain't no flies on the 270 (IMO the best caliber for 90% of the shooting public)

When rebarreling it all comes down to case head size. I had a 300 win mag I wanted to rebarrel and with the .532" bolt face the choices did not include a 6.5-06 or I probably would have gone that way. If you have an action with a .473" bolt face or close then that is the better choice.

Don't think I would buy a new 6.5 rem mag mainly because of the Remington safety, their sloppy chambers and the problems with short actions. Althought the 673 guide gun looks like a nifty carry gun.

With the new powders like RL17 then barrel life should be long enough, at least much longer than the 264 win mag. RL17 has a burning rate similar to IMR4350 and burn rate is the largest determining factor in barrel life



the reason for the short barrel life in the 264 win mag is that with the larger case, very slow powders in the 870 group gave the best performance. Remember I've had 2 of them and to even match the velocity of the 6.5 rem mag you had to get slow powders like H1000 or RL25 and popped primers were common and there was always the worry about SEE (secondary explosion effect).

Anyway if you have a long action win mag rifle you want to rebarrel and want a 6.5 then the 6.5 rem mag is the cat's meouw. Otherwise there are better choices.


When someone shares something of value with you and you benefit from it, you have a moral obligation to share it with others.


Edited by - woods on Mar 16 2012 10:08:25
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Shastaboat
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USA
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Posted - Mar 16 2012 :  11:58:39  Show Profile Send Shastaboat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Woods, I see your point. But for the cost of rebarreling I think Id sell or trade. I have a confession. I've never had the need or inclination to own a belted mag rifle. In fact In the last 15 years or so I've gone the other way and have concentraded on mid-size cases such as 7x57, 6.5x55, .257 Roberts, 8x57, .308 Win, .243 Win. etc...
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Posted - Mar 16 2012 :  16:48:31  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shastaboat

Woods, I see your point. But for the cost of rebarreling I think Id sell or trade. I have a confession. I've never had the need or inclination to own a belted mag rifle. In fact In the last 15 years or so I've gone the other way and have concentraded on mid-size cases such as 7x57, 6.5x55, .257 Roberts, 8x57, .308 Win, .243 Win. etc...




I agree and I have gone the same way. Hence my forum name.
7x57guy
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