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firstshot
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USA
21 Posts

Posted - May 03 2005 :  15:16:54  Show Profile Send firstshot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
With all the high tech, bonded, plastic tiped, high BC, good at any range / velocity, new fangled bullets on the market today, you wouldn't think that there was a place for the old fashoned, low tech, Round Nose bullets.
However, somebody's using them! Cause they are definitely availabe and in a multitude of calibers. I didn't check the other manufacturers, but Hornady offers one or more Round Nose bullets in all of the major calibers. (See list below)

.243 6MM, .257 25 CAL, .264 6.5MM, .227 270 CAL, .284 7MM-08, .308 30 CAL,
.312 303 CAL, .323 8MM, .338 338 CAL, .358 35 CAL, .375 375 CAL, .416 416 CAL
.458 45 CAL

Who out there is still using Round Nose bullets? Other than in lever guns......Why? In what caliber(s)? How do they perform on game?

firstshot

Robert
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USA
1613 Posts

Posted - May 03 2005 :  20:09:53  Show Profile Send Robert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I use them when I want a 'sledgehammer'..as a matter of fact...I just loaded a bunch up for a project. I ordered a 7.62x25 chamber adapter to fit in 30-06. My first choice was 180 gr Hornady Roundnose. I am loading these so far at about 1,000 fps...so I wasn't planning on expansion... With the round nose bullets at that velocity I should get plenty of shock (knock-down) without having to rely on expansion.

Make it count. www.graybeardoutdoors.com
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akalinin
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Posted - May 04 2005 :  19:25:30  Show Profile Send akalinin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I handload a 458 win. mag with 350gr hornady RN bullets, to about 2200 fps. I love these bullets - well priced, accurate, awesome expansion (to about the size of an American quarter) and never had one separate from the jacket. Just use them at the appropriate range - they are not meant for long distance shots.

I broad sided a ~250lb boar from about 75 yards this past February, and it was like a Mack truck hit it - it took one shot, and never moved after that. The exit wound was larger than my fist, and the bullet lodged in the hide. The only downside was about 10 lbs of destroyed ribs.

-Al

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Irishboy
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USA
61 Posts

Posted - May 04 2005 :  21:04:25  Show Profile Send Irishboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
1) I use the 220 grain .308" roundnose in my .30/40 Krag because that's the original loading for that caliber. I also use it in my .30/40 Krag Ackley Improved and my .300 Win.Mag. because I get the best accuracy possible with that bullet. In my .300, it has almost exactly the same point of impact as a 200 grain SP at 300 yards. I also like its expansion qualities.
2) I like the 160 gr. RN in my 6.5x55 because it's the most accurate in my rifle.
3) Same reason with almost all of my military bolt-action rifles, and also because the tend to feed better than pointed bullets.






"God made man. Sam Colt made man equal."

Happy reloading,
Jim B.
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rpounds
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USA
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Posted - May 05 2005 :  09:33:30  Show Profile  Visit rpounds's Homepage Send rpounds a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Don't forget those of us that have a lever gun or two in the case. We have to use round nose bullets in our tubular magazines.
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firstshot
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USA
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Posted - May 05 2005 :  16:17:55  Show Profile Send firstshot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm shooting a REM 700 Mtn LSS in 7MM-08. Thinking about trying the Hornady 154 Grn round nose.

Do you think a round nose would perform well on a shoulder shot, or should they be reserved for a behind the shoulder? What about angling shots?

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rxmoore
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USA
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Posted - May 06 2005 :  11:51:22  Show Profile Send rxmoore a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm thinking that it depends on bullet construction more than shape, although roundnose bullets will probably expand more quickly than spitzers, all other factors being equal. It also depends on what kind of shoulders you're planning on breaking. I've taken out both shoulders on whitetails with a flat-point .30-30 bullet, but I wouldn't try it on an elk or a moose.
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firstshot
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USA
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Posted - May 06 2005 :  13:31:48  Show Profile Send firstshot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
rxmoore

I'm primarily talking whitetails, but where I hunt there is always a chance of a black bear or big hog.

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rxmoore
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USA
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Posted - May 06 2005 :  14:16:32  Show Profile Send rxmoore a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In that case, I would personally say "no problem," especially with a fairly heavy-for-caliber bullet like a 154-grain .284. However, penetration really isn't the strong suit of the round-nosed bullet. If you're concerned about breaking bones, particularly with bears or hogs, you might be better served by a stronger bullet like a partition, X, or one of the many others designed to stay together.
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jiminthecorner
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Canada
2 Posts

Posted - May 10 2005 :  18:20:16  Show Profile Send jiminthecorner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My 1903 Mannlicher 6.5x54 uses both Hornady 160 gr and 156gr RWS bullets A. because they don't jam and B. they penetrate!Haven't recovered one yet from our BIG CAnadian Whitetails. And they also kill Moose with lightning effect! My load is 40.0 grs.H4350 and no signs of high pressure. Jiminthecorner.

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220 swift
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Posted - May 10 2005 :  23:54:03  Show Profile Send 220 swift a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My 700 classic 257 roberts really likes hornady 117gr round nose bullets.
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Paul B
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Posted - May 11 2005 :  18:31:12  Show Profile Send Paul B a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My favorite bullet in the 7x57 is the Siera 170 gr, round nose. Problem is, Sierra dropped them a few years back. The good news is I found a guy who have five unopened boxes at a gun show. They were going for $6.00 a box or $25 for all five. best $25 I've spent in a long time.
Paul B.
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Montanan
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USA
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Posted - Oct 22 2005 :  07:18:36  Show Profile Send Montanan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by akalinin

I handload a 458 win. mag with 350gr hornady RN bullets, to about 2200 fps. I love these bullets - well priced, accurate, awesome expansion (to about the size of an American quarter) and never had one separate from the jacket. Just use them at the appropriate range - they are not meant for long distance shots.

I broad sided a ~250lb boar from about 75 yards this past February, and it was like a Mack truck hit it - it took one shot, and never moved after that. The exit wound was larger than my fist, and the bullet lodged in the hide. The only downside was about 10 lbs of destroyed ribs.

-Al



Al

Slow your fps way down, and you won't have all that distroyed meat and ribs. With the large bore bullets you can do more with less fps. In my 45-90 I don't hunt with less than a 405-gr bullet. Death is just as leathal, and you can eat right up to the hole with no blood shot meat damage.

Here is a link to a pic of 45-90 cartridges & bullets loaded up, which two do you think I would use most because of what they do? The first two cartridges are 405-gr cast bullets and will be around 1450 fps and are cast around 20:1. The blunt nose 510-gr Kodiak Bison Buster 30:1 cast, has taken bison out to 168 yds with no meat loss at 1350 fps. The Remington 405-gr jsp holds together quite well and may be pushing 1549 fps.
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc001659jd.jpg

Heres a video posted at Hunt America Hog Forum http://www.huntamerica.com/wwwthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=687638&an=0&page=0#687638

Rifle used was a Sharps Quigley model in 45-70 using factory Remington 405-gr JSP that list an FPS of 1331 from a 24" barrel. I know your using a .458 Win Mag, but your fps can still be more effective and less damaging.

I know guys that are loading a 45-70 up with a 300-gr JSP @ 2400 fps and blowing up whitetails with em, and wondering why they got so much damage to their game.

Have a good one.
"JB"

Edited by - Montanan on Oct 22 2005 07:47:37
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Tommy B
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USA
724 Posts

Posted - Oct 22 2005 :  16:29:40  Show Profile Send Tommy B a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like the Hornady 175gr round nose in my 7 mag at about 2850fps they have that "smashing" effect on game if you know what i mean. I use it on bears and they are very accurate.

Iím not a hunter, Iím a population control specialist!
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huntswithdogs
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Posted - Oct 24 2005 :  15:55:56  Show Profile Send huntswithdogs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I load the 6mm Hornadys in my 243 and the 180 rn speer in my 300winmag. Both shoot well and are great on game.

HWD
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calsibley
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Canada
598 Posts

Posted - Oct 24 2005 :  20:34:14  Show Profile Send calsibley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I use round nose bullets in my 6.5x55 and my .308Win. as well if I'm hunting in fairly close cover conditions such as we emcounter in east coast flatland forests. Shots for deer are usually under about 75 yards. I also use round nose bullets when I hunt moose. Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal


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